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Czy kto¶ móg³by przeanalizowaæ warto¶ci dla masowego natê¿enia przep³ywu w moim aucie?
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,Grupa A:,'001,,,,Grupa B:,'002,,,,Grupa C:,'003
,,Obroty silnika,Temperatura,Lambda,Lambda,,Obroty silnika,Obci±¿enie,Czas wtrysku,Masowe n.przep³ywu,,Obroty silnika,Masowe n.przep³ywu,Obci±¿enie,K±t w.zap³onu
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Znacznik,ZAPISU, /min,°C, %, %,ZAPISU, /min, %, ms, g/s,ZAPISU, /min, g/s, %, °PGMP
,0.30,800,90.0,-4.7,2.3,0.60,800,18.0,3.12,6.94,0.01,800,6.78,2.4,10.5
,1.20,840,90.0,-3.1,4.7,1.50,840,18.0,3.12,6.86,0.90,800,6.83,2.4,10.5
,2.10,800,90.0,-5.5,2.3,2.40,800,18.0,3.12,6.78,1.80,800,6.89,2.4,10.5
,3.00,800,90.0,-3.1,4.7,3.30,800,18.0,3.12,6.78,2.70,800,6.78,2.4,14.3
,3.90,800,90.0,-4.7,2.3,4.20,800,18.0,3.12,6.72,3.60,800,6.78,2.4,11.3
,4.80,800,90.0,-3.1,3.1,5.10,800,18.0,3.12,6.92,4.50,800,6.69,2.4,15.8
,5.70,800,90.0,-4.7,2.3,6.00,800,18.0,3.12,6.78,5.40,800,6.89,2.4,9.8
,6.60,800,90.0,-6.3,2.3,6.90,800,17.3,3.12,7.14,6.30,800,6.53,2.4,12.0
,7.50,800,90.0,-2.3,3.1,7.80,800,18.0,3.12,6.64,7.20,800,6.94,2.4,13.5
,8.40,800,90.0,-5.5,1.6,8.70,800,18.0,3.12,6.78,8.10,800,6.78,2.4,14.3
,9.30,800,90.0,-3.1,1.6,9.60,800,18.0,3.12,6.92,9.00,800,6.86,2.4,11.3
,10.20,800,90.0,-5.5,3.1,10.50,800,18.0,3.12,6.92,9.90,800,6.83,2.4,12.0
,11.10,800,90.0,-1.6,0.8,11.40,800,18.0,3.12,6.81,10.80,800,6.81,2.4,10.5
,12.00,800,90.0,-4.7,2.3,12.30,800,18.0,3.12,6.81,11.70,800,6.86,2.4,11.3
,12.90,800,90.0,-2.3,3.1,13.20,800,18.0,3.12,6.81,12.60,800,6.89,2.4,12.8
,13.80,760,90.0,-2.3,3.1,14.10,800,29.3,5.20,13.53,13.50,760,9.28,3.5,-2.3
,14.70,760,90.0,-4.7,0.8,15.00,760,29.3,4.68,10.22,14.40,760,9.92,4.3,-1.5
,15.60,760,90.0,-3.1,3.1,15.90,760,27.8,4.68,9.75,15.30,760,9.86,4.3,5.3
,16.50,760,90.0,0.0,5.5,16.80,760,27.8,4.68,9.72,16.20,760,9.56,3.9,7.5
,17.40,760,90.0,2.3,4.7,17.70,760,27.8,4.68,9.61,17.10,760,9.56,3.9,8.3
,18.30,760,90.0,2.3,4.7,18.60,760,27.1,4.68,9.58,18.00,760,9.58,3.9,8.3
,19.20,760,90.0,-0.8,2.3,19.50,760,27.1,4.68,9.61,18.90,760,9.61,3.9,6.8
,20.10,760,90.0,-2.3,1.6,20.40,760,27.1,4.68,9.61,19.80,720,9.14,3.9,12.0
,21.00,760,90.0,-0.8,1.6,21.30,760,27.1,4.68,9.50,20.70,760,9.61,3.9,8.3
,21.90,760,90.0,-3.1,2.3,22.20,760,27.1,4.68,9.56,21.60,760,9.53,3.9,9.8
,22.80,760,90.0,-4.7,0.8,23.10,760,27.1,4.68,9.44,22.50,760,9.61,3.9,11.3
,23.70,760,90.0,-3.1,0.8,24.00,760,27.1,4.68,9.44,23.40,760,9.44,3.9,7.5
,24.60,760,90.0,-2.3,1.6,24.90,760,27.1,4.68,9.58,24.30,760,9.44,3.9,11.3
,25.50,720,90.0,-3.1,1.6,25.80,760,27.8,4.68,9.42,25.20,760,9.47,3.9,9.8
,26.40,760,90.0,-2.3,0.0,26.70,760,27.1,4.68,9.36,26.10,760,9.47,3.9,8.3
,27.30,760,90.0,-2.3,0.0,27.60,760,27.1,4.68,9.47,27.00,760,9.44,3.9,8.3
,28.20,760,90.0,-4.7,0.0,28.50,760,27.1,4.68,9.50,27.90,760,9.61,3.9,11.3
,29.10,760,90.0,-1.6,0.8,29.40,760,27.1,4.68,9.44,28.80,760,9.19,3.9,9.0
,30.00,760,90.0,-4.7,2.3,30.30,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,29.70,760,9.42,3.9,12.0
,30.90,760,90.0,-2.3,2.3,31.20,760,27.1,4.68,9.50,30.60,760,9.47,3.9,9.8
,31.80,760,90.0,-3.9,2.3,32.10,760,27.1,4.68,9.47,31.50,760,9.56,3.9,7.5
,32.70,760,90.0,-1.6,2.3,33.00,760,26.3,4.68,9.36,32.40,760,9.36,3.9,9.8
,33.60,760,91.0,-4.7,1.6,33.90,720,27.1,4.68,9.47,33.30,760,9.56,3.9,8.3
,34.50,760,91.0,-2.3,0.0,34.80,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,34.20,760,9.36,3.9,11.3
,35.40,760,91.0,-2.3,0.0,35.70,760,27.1,4.68,9.50,35.10,760,9.42,3.9,11.3
,36.30,760,91.0,-3.1,0.8,36.60,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,36.00,760,9.56,3.9,8.3
,37.20,760,91.0,-3.1,2.3,37.50,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,36.90,760,9.42,3.9,8.3
,38.10,760,91.0,-3.9,2.3,38.40,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,37.80,760,9.42,3.9,10.5
,39.00,760,91.0,-1.6,1.6,39.30,760,27.1,4.68,9.47,38.70,760,9.36,3.9,12.0
,39.90,760,91.0,-3.1,1.6,40.20,760,27.1,4.68,9.44,39.60,760,9.39,3.9,11.3
,40.80,760,91.0,-0.8,0.0,41.10,760,27.1,4.68,9.53,40.50,760,9.47,3.9,10.5
,41.70,760,91.0,-2.3,0.0,42.00,760,27.1,4.68,9.39,41.40,760,9.47,3.9,9.8
,42.60,760,91.0,-4.7,0.0,42.90,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,42.30,760,9.42,3.9,12.0
,43.50,760,91.0,-0.8,0.8,43.80,760,27.1,4.68,9.50,43.20,760,9.44,3.9,7.5
,44.40,760,91.0,-0.8,0.8,44.70,760,26.3,4.68,9.42,44.10,760,9.42,3.9,9.0
,45.30,760,91.0,-3.9,0.8,45.60,760,27.1,4.68,9.31,45.00,760,9.50,3.9,10.5
,46.20,760,91.0,-3.9,2.3,46.49,720,27.1,4.68,9.42,45.90,760,9.36,3.9,9.8
,47.10,760,91.0,-2.3,-1.6,47.40,760,27.1,4.68,9.39,46.79,720,9.42,3.9,12.0
,48.00,760,91.0,-3.1,-0.8,48.30,760,27.1,4.68,9.44,47.70,760,9.39,3.9,10.5
,48.89,760,91.0,-0.8,0.0,49.19,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,48.59,760,9.39,3.9,9.8
,49.80,760,91.0,-3.9,0.8,50.09,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,49.49,760,9.50,3.9,11.3
,50.69,760,91.0,-2.3,0.0,50.99,760,26.3,4.68,9.44,50.39,760,9.39,3.9,10.5
,51.59,760,91.0,-1.6,1.6,51.89,760,27.1,4.68,9.44,51.29,760,9.44,3.9,9.0
,52.49,760,91.0,-3.9,1.6,52.79,760,27.1,4.68,9.50,52.19,760,9.42,3.9,9.8
,53.39,760,91.0,-1.6,-0.8,53.70,760,27.1,4.68,9.39,53.10,760,9.42,3.9,10.5
,54.30,760,91.0,-0.8,-0.8,54.59,760,27.1,4.68,9.58,53.99,760,9.31,3.9,8.3
,55.20,760,91.0,-3.9,-0.8,55.50,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,54.89,760,9.42,3.9,9.8
,56.10,760,91.0,-3.9,-0.8,56.40,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,55.80,760,9.50,3.9,9.8
,56.99,720,92.0,-0.8,0.0,57.29,720,27.8,4.68,9.44,56.69,760,9.44,3.9,12.0
,57.89,720,92.0,-4.7,-2.3,58.19,720,27.8,4.68,9.42,57.59,720,9.44,3.9,14.3
,58.80,760,92.0,-2.3,-1.6,59.10,760,27.1,4.68,9.42,58.49,720,9.44,3.9,9.8
,59.69,720,92.0,-3.9,0.8,59.99,720,27.8,4.68,9.61,59.39,720,9.42,3.9,15.0
,60.59,680,92.0,-3.1,-1.6,60.89,680,34.6,5.72,12.75,60.29,720,9.47,3.9,18.0
,61.49,720,92.0,-5.5,-3.9,61.79,720,32.3,5.20,10.39,61.19,680,10.31,4.7,5.3
,62.39,720,92.0,-1.6,-0.8,62.69,720,30.1,5.20,10.00,62.09,720,10.22,4.3,7.5
,63.29,720,92.0,0.8,1.6,63.59,720,29.3,5.20,10.11,62.99,720,10.00,4.3,13.5
,64.19,720,92.0,-0.8,0.8,64.49,720,29.3,5.20,9.97,63.89,720,9.97,4.3,12.8
,65.09,720,92.0,-3.1,1.6,65.39,720,29.3,5.20,9.89,64.79,720,9.94,4.3,14.3
,65.99,720,92.0,-2.3,1.6,66.29,720,29.3,5.20,9.97,65.69,720,9.92,4.3,12.8
,66.89,760,92.0,0.8,0.8,67.19,760,28.6,4.68,9.78,66.59,760,9.94,4.3,9.0
,67.79,760,92.0,-0.8,2.3,68.09,760,27.8,4.68,9.78,67.49,760,9.72,3.9,6.8
,68.69,760,92.0,-1.6,0.8,68.99,760,27.1,4.68,9.61,68.39,760,9.56,3.9,6.0
,69.59,760,92.0,-1.6,0.8,69.89,720,27.1,4.68,9.50,69.29,760,9.25,3.9,6.0
,70.49,720,92.0,-3.1,-0.8,70.79,640,24.8,4.16,6.61,70.19,720,9.61,3.9,12.0
,71.39,680,92.0,-3.9,-0.8,71.69,680,30.1,5.20,12.42,71.09,680,7.75,3.1,0.8
,72.29,720,92.0,-2.3,-0.8,72.59,720,29.3,4.68,9.92,71.99,680,9.22,3.9,3.0
,73.19,760,92.0,0.0,1.6,73.49,800,27.1,4.68,8.92,72.89,760,9.72,4.3,6.0
,74.09,800,92.0,2.3,4.7,74.39,760,24.8,4.16,8.86,73.79,800,9.22,3.5,2.3
,74.99,760,92.0,1.6,4.7,75.29,720,24.8,4.16,8.50,74.69,760,8.86,3.5,8.3
,75.89,720,92.0,-0.8,2.3,76.19,760,24.8,4.16,8.58,75.59,720,8.47,3.5,12.8
,76.79,720,92.0,-0.8,0.0,77.09,720,25.6,4.16,8.56,76.49,720,8.78,3.5,12.8
,77.69,760,92.0,-0.8,-1.6,77.99,760,24.8,4.16,8.58,77.39,720,8.64,3.5,13.5
,78.59,760,92.0,-3.1,0.8,78.89,720,24.1,4.16,8.39,78.29,760,8.56,3.5,10.5
,79.49,760,92.0,-2.3,-0.8,79.79,760,24.8,4.16,8.53,79.19,760,8.67,3.5,8.3
,80.39,760,92.0,-3.9,-0.8,80.69,880,24.8,4.16,9.97,80.09,760,8.58,3.5,8.3
,81.29,1120,92.0,1.6,3.1,81.59,1240,29.3,5.20,17.06,80.99,960,15.61,6.7,21.0
,82.19,1480,92.0,0.0,2.3,82.49,1560,30.8,5.20,21.72,81.89,1360,20.19,8.2,22.5
,83.09,1800,92.0,0.0,-1.6,83.39,1920,35.3,6.24,30.08,82.79,1680,28.53,10.6,22.5
,83.99,1640,92.0,1.6,0.0,84.29,1640,38.3,6.24,29.44,83.69,1880,31.36,11.4,12.0
,84.89,1760,92.0,-0.8,0.8,85.19,1800,37.6,6.24,31.56,84.59,1680,29.83,11.4,22.5
,85.79,1960,92.0,3.1,4.7,86.09,2000,36.1,6.24,31.89,85.49,1880,33.19,12.2,21.0
,86.69,2000,92.0,-1.6,4.7,86.99,1680,37.6,6.24,31.17,86.39,2000,32.11,11.8,17.3
,87.59,1680,92.0,2.3,0.0,87.89,1600,39.8,6.76,29.94,87.29,1720,30.72,11.4,21.8
,88.49,1640,92.0,0.0,7.0,88.79,1640,39.8,6.76,30.58,88.19,1600,29.72,11.8,21.8
,89.39,1720,92.0,0.8,4.7,89.69,1760,38.3,6.24,30.00,89.09,1680,30.86,11.8,21.8
,90.29,1800,92.0,5.5,10.9,90.59,1800,31.6,5.20,25.22,90.00,1800,26.64,10.2,22.5
,91.19,1880,92.0,2.3,1.6,91.49,1800,28.6,5.20,23.81,90.89,1800,24.06,9.0,18.0
,92.09,1320,92.0,0.0,2.3,92.39,1320,36.1,5.72,20.92,91.79,1480,21.44,8.2,22.5
,92.99,1320,92.0,0.0,3.9,93.29,1280,15.8,2.60,7.72,92.69,1320,19.69,8.2,21.0
,93.89,1200,92.0,8.6,12.5,94.19,1200,15.8,3.12,8.69,93.59,1280,8.44,3.5,22.5
,94.79,1160,91.0,10.2,14.1,95.09,1160,15.8,3.12,8.86,94.49,1200,8.56,3.5,13.5
,95.69,1080,91.0,3.1,6.3,95.99,1080,16.5,3.12,8.64,95.39,1120,8.86,3.5,13.5
,96.59,1080,91.0,3.1,9.4,96.89,1080,17.3,3.12,8.61,96.29,1080,8.67,3.5,13.5
,97.49,1040,91.0,2.3,3.1,97.79,1040,17.3,3.12,8.56,97.19,1080,8.53,3.5,12.8
,98.39,1040,91.0,3.1,3.9,98.69,1040,17.3,3.12,8.61,98.09,1040,8.67,3.5,12.8
,99.29,1120,91.0,0.0,5.5,99.59,1160,22.6,4.16,14.78,98.99,1080,8.56,3.5,20.3
,100.19,1080,91.0,2.3,2.3,100.49,1080,24.1,4.16,12.17,99.89,1200,12.61,5.1,24.8
,101.09,1080,91.0,6.3,7.0,101.39,1080,23.3,4.16,11.97,100.79,1080,11.75,5.1,24.0
,101.99,1120,91.0,0.8,6.3,102.29,1160,59.4,11.96,35.81,101.69,1120,18.64,7.5,22.5
,102.89,1680,91.0,-3.1,-3.1,103.19,2000,63.9,10.92,57.61,102.59,1160,28.33,44.7,12.8
,103.79,2480,91.0,1.6,4.7,104.10,2600,72.9,11.96,85.81,103.49,2160,63.03,52.5,-2.3
,104.69,2760,91.0,0.8,-0.8,104.99,2840,78.2,12.48,102.44,104.39,2680,87.33,51.0,21.0
,105.59,2960,91.0,-0.8,-3.1,105.89,3000,78.9,12.48,105.89,105.30,2920,107.31,49.0,19.5
,106.50,3080,91.0,-0.8,-3.9,106.80,3160,78.9,13.00,114.03,106.19,3000,100.44,46.3,19.5
,107.40,3360,91.0,4.7,3.9,107.69,3440,81.2,13.52,127.78,107.09,3280,121.89,45.1,19.5
,108.30,3600,91.0,1.6,-1.6,108.60,3680,77.4,12.48,131.42,108.00,3560,131.75,37.3,16.5
,109.19,2520,91.0,-3.1,-1.6,109.49,2600,67.7,11.44,78.97,108.90,2600,81.78,29.0,4.5
,110.10,2560,90.0,0.8,3.9,110.40,2560,45.1,7.28,47.67,109.79,2600,74.08,26.3,22.5
,110.99,2280,90.0,7.8,14.1,111.29,2040,13.5,2.60,10.69,110.69,2520,24.47,9.0,15.0
,111.89,2000,90.0,13.3,15.6,112.19,2000,11.3,2.08,10.36,111.59,2000,10.42,4.3,15.8
,112.79,1960,90.0,7.0,3.1,113.09,1920,11.3,2.08,10.39,112.49,1960,10.36,4.3,12.0
,113.70,1880,90.0,3.1,-0.8,113.99,1880,12.0,2.08,10.19,113.39,1920,10.50,4.3,10.5
,114.59,1960,90.0,3.9,3.1,114.89,1920,12.0,2.08,11.42,114.29,1920,10.17,3.9,16.5
,115.49,1920,90.0,3.9,6.3,115.79,1920,12.8,2.60,10.81,115.19,1920,11.97,4.7,31.5
,116.40,1880,90.0,0.8,7.8,116.69,1880,12.0,2.08,10.50,116.09,1920,10.44,4.3,32.3
,117.29,1840,90.0,5.5,5.5,117.59,1840,12.0,2.08,10.19,116.99,1840,10.28,4.3,14.3
,118.19,1800,90.0,3.9,2.3,118.49,1800,12.0,2.08,9.83,117.89,1800,9.97,3.9,12.8
,119.09,1800,90.0,1.6,0.0,119.39,1800,12.8,2.60,11.17,118.79,1800,10.19,3.9,32.3
,119.99,2040,90.0,0.8,7.0,120.29,2120,61.7,9.88,59.61,119.69,1800,38.56,12.2,15.0
,120.90,2560,90.0,3.1,7.0,121.20,2560,69.9,11.44,81.39,120.59,2480,76.72,33.7,23.3
,121.79,2600,90.0,-3.1,3.9,122.09,2600,70.7,11.44,83.42,121.49,2560,80.97,35.3,21.8
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Kolego patrz±c na te dane dosta³em zeza i tiku nerwowego. ;-) Zrób z tym porz±dek zamieniaj±c w format csv. Na forum masz opis jak to zrobiæ.
pzdr

P.S.
Nie doda³e¶, ¿e chodzi o powietrze. ;-)

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przy za³±czaniu pliku z excela pojawia siê komunikat rozszerzenie csv jest nie dozwolone a instrukcji jak to wkleiæ nie mogê znale¼æ

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Jakim programem robi³e¶ te logi?

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Wersja VAG-COM: AKP 704.1

Adres 01: Silnik
Numer seryjny sterownika: 4D0 907 559 AB
Komponent i/lub wersja: 4.2L V8/5V G01 0002

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W katalogu VAG COM masz program CSVConv do konwersji logów. Przemiel loga tym programem i pó¼niej otwórz przerobiony log exelem.
pzdr

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nie mam niestety Vaga , jak pisa³em testy by³y robione w warsztacie ...
mogê wys³aæ testy w excelu na PW

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mabarte napisa³/a:
nie mam niestety Vaga , jak pisa³em testy by³y robione w warsztacie ...
mogê wys³aæ testy w excelu na PW

W warsztacie? Nie bêdê tego komentowaæ, ale s±dz±c po profesjonalizmie us³uga raczej nie by³a p³atna. OK prze¶lij mi na PW.
pzdr

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To co zrobili nie nadaje siê nawet do wró¿enia z fusów. Logi powinni zrobiæ dynamicznie, a nie statycznie. Wed³ug obecnego wskazania pomiar przep³ywu jest stanowczo za niski, ale to tylko log statyczny. W auto trzeba wsi±¶æ i kopn±æ po peda³ach, bo jaki jest sens siedzieæ przez 10 minut w aucie i bawiæ siê peda³em gazu skoro nic z tego nie wyniknie?
pzdr

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dziêki , w trakcie jazdy te¿ robili jakie¶ testy, ale dali mi tylko to co widaæ. Muszê siê do nich jeszcze raz wybraæ.

pozdrowionka

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mabarte napisa³/a:
Muszê siê do nich jeszcze raz wybraæ.

Albo kupiæ sobie interfejs i zrobiæ to samemu. Oczywi¶cie + kierowca. :mrgreen:

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witaj Adi,

kurier w³a¶nie dostarczy³ mi interfejs. Mo¿e jakie¶ wskazówki, które testy nale¿y wykonaæ na pocz±tek

pozdro

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mabarte napisa³/a:
witaj Adi,

kurier w³a¶nie dostarczy³ mi interfejs. Mo¿e jakie¶ wskazówki, które testy nale¿y wykonaæ na pocz±tek

pozdro

A co takiego Ci dostarczy³? Pochwal siê.

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viaken produkcji krajowej

http://allegro.pl/najleps...1279995565.html

i chyba VAG-COM z tej strony

http://rapidshare.com/fil...v311-2.rar.html

chyba , ze mo¿esz podaæ linka do jakiej¶ lepszej wersji tego programu

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Viaken hmmm te¿ mo¿e byæ. VAG CoM w wersji 311 wystarczy do pracy. Sam na nim robi³em i jest stabilniejszy ni¿ wersja 409.

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